TY - CONF A1 - Rhode, Michael A1 - Czeskleba, Denis A1 - Kannengießer, Thomas A1 - Mente, Tobias T1 - Reliable hydrogen determination in metallic materials and their weld joints: Parameters and challenges N2 - In the course of tomorrow's hydrogen-based energy transition, the construction of the corresponding infrastructure will play a central role. The majority of materials used to date are typically welded for component fabrication. In that context, steels are widely applied and can be prone to hydrogen embrittlement. This includes the classical delayed cold cracking during welding processing as well as embrittlement phenomena during operation. For the evaluation of any hydrogen effect on, for example, the mechanical properties of a welded metallic material, the hydrogen content must be precisely determined. In the case of welds, for example, according to ISO 3690, this is the isothermal carrier gas hot extraction (CGHE). CGHE is based on accelerated hydrogen degassing due to thermal activation of hydrogen at elevated temperatures. In addition to the pure quantification of hydrogen, thermal desorption analysis (TDA) with varied heating rates can be used to determine and evaluate the bonding state at microstructural defects in the material. For both techniques, experimental and measurement influences have to be considered, which have a great effect on the result. For CGHE, for example, ISO 3690 suggests different sample geometries as well as minimum extraction times. The present study summarizes results and experiences of numerous investigations with different sample temperatures and geometries (ISO 3690 type B and cylindrical TDA samples) regarding: the influence of the sample surface (polished/welded), measurement accuracies depending on the sample volume as well as the insufficient monitoring of the effect of the PI controller on the extraction temperature. In particular, a deviating extraction temperature to the set temperature, can significantly falsify the measurement results. Based on the results, methods are shown to quickly reach the desired extraction temperature without having to physically interfere with the measurement equipment. This serves to substantially improve the reliability of hydrogen measurement through increased signal stability and accelerated hydrogen desorption. In general, an independent temperature measurement with dummy samples for the selected heating procedure is advisable to exclude possible unwanted temperature influences already before the measurement. In addition (and way more important), the methods described can be transferred directly to industrial applications. T2 - 47th MPA-Seminar CY - Stuttgart, Germany DA - 10.10.2023 KW - Hydrogen assisted cracking KW - Carrier gas hot extraction KW - Welding KW - ISO 3690 KW - Metals PY - 2023 AN - OPUS4-58677 LA - eng AD - Bundesanstalt fuer Materialforschung und -pruefung (BAM), Berlin, Germany ER - TY - CONF A1 - Rhode, Michael A1 - Mente, Tobias T1 - Hydrogen embrittlement of steels N2 - Hydrogen assisted cracking of metals is a serious issue in the safety of components, espcially in case of welding. The current presentation gives an overview on specialized testing procedures at Department 9 including the quantitative determination of hydrogen. T2 - HYDROGENIUS BAM Joint Hydrogen Symposium CY - Online meeting DA - 06.07.2021 KW - Hydrogen KW - Embrittlement KW - Degradation KW - Carrier gas hot extraction KW - Welding PY - 2021 AN - OPUS4-53049 LA - eng AD - Bundesanstalt fuer Materialforschung und -pruefung (BAM), Berlin, Germany ER - TY - CONF A1 - Rhode, Michael A1 - Mente, Tobias A1 - Münster, C. A1 - Kannengießer, Thomas T1 - Specimen temperature during CGHE and influence on hydrogen determination N2 - Hydrogen determination in weld seams is standardized in ISO 3690. In accordance to this standard, a defined time for hydrogen collection has to be anticipated for different extraction temperatures. In other words, the temperature is the most important value that has to be monitored in addition to the aimed hydrogen determination. The specimen geometry has influence on the real sample temperature during CGHE vs. the adjusted furnace temperature. This presentation gives a short summary on possible influences on the "correct" hydrogen determination temperature during carrier gas hot extraction (CGHE) using infrared radiation driven furnace. The main findings are: (1) specimen surface is important in terms of polished or oxidized condition, (2) specimen geometry is important for fast heating, (3) PID-values of control software are a considerable influence to accelerate the heating process depite thick specimens and (4) independent sample temperature determination before CGHE is strongly recommended. T2 - Intermediate Meeting of IIW Subcommission II-E CY - Genoa, Italy DA - 05.03.2018 KW - Hydrogen KW - Welding KW - Carrier gas hot extraction KW - Temperature KW - Measurement PY - 2018 AN - OPUS4-44427 LA - eng AD - Bundesanstalt fuer Materialforschung und -pruefung (BAM), Berlin, Germany ER -